I usually avoid commenting on social media but I still belong to several Fake Book groups where Christians/creationists debate atheists/evolutionists. I do this primarily to hear what unbelievers are saying and to get inspiration for my blog. 
Did the creation create itself?
Recently, one unbeliever made this comment:
EVERYBODY Believes that Intelligent Order, Design and Fine Tuning Can Exist WITHOUT the Need of a Creator.
Please excuse the arbitrary capitalization and the lack of the serial comma, I posted exactly what was said so that I can’t be accused of misrepresenting the point. This person is saying that order and design can exist without a creator.
Since I seldom hear any original thoughts from atheists/evolutionists, I knew I’d already heard this before. I made a brief comment and linked to a post I’d made some time ago, namely that Design is Obvious and how design typically suggests there is a designer. Richard Dawkins, wrote about this very thing in his book, The Blind Watchmaker, where he said, “The complexity of living organisms is matched by the elegant efficiency of their apparent design. If anyone doesn’t agree that this amount of complex design cries out for an explanation, I give up.”
I used the old joke about the chicken crossing the road to make a point. It's been my experience that the most obvious answer to nearly any question is usually the correct one. The first time people hear the chicken riddle, they usually search for some deep meaning or clever answer yet completely overlook the obvious answer – to get to the other side. So why does everything look designed? Maybe it’s because it is designed!!
Evolutionists go to great lengths to explain away design but the more they explain, the more they prove my point. They would not put in such effort if they didn't grasp the clear implication of design is that there is a Designer. It's almost funny to see how they reject the most reasonable answer for such an unlikely one. It's like they're saying, “No! The chicken did not want to get to the other side!'
Anyway, the Fake Book poster replied to my comments with the following argument:
If everything that looks designed is designed, that tells us that God is designed and created OR if God is not designed and created then no, not everything that looks designed is designed.
You may see right away that his argument suffered from a first cause dilemma. If God were created, then who created God? Then who created that creator? And then who created that creator? You can see where this is going. This is what is known as an infinite regress; it's a logical fallacy where a speaker projects a causal chain of events backward without any definite point that starts the chain.
Aristotle said there must be a “first cause” or what he described as “The unmoved mover.” In our case, we may call Him the Ultimate Designer. Pretend, for a moment, that you're walking through a forest and you happen upon a log cabin. It's crude and has only a dirt floor. It has no electricity, plumbing, or glass windows. It's just basically logs, notched and stacked, with openings cut out for the door and windows. There's not a stick of furniture inside nor any other sign of anyone having lived in it recently. What questions might you ask yourself? I would think your first thoughts would be, I wonder who built this? Does someone live here? Where is he now?
I'm fairly certain no one would ask, “That's incredible! I wonder how these logs fell into the shape of a cabin?”
You see, logs organized into the shape of a cabin show design. Sections having been cut out to allow light and access show purpose. Design and purpose are the characteristics of created things and created things are the proof of a creator. The cabin obviously had a creator. Withholding judgment about the existence of a builder of the cabin is not the sign of a rational, thinking person. It's the stubborn refusal of a fool to acknowledge the obvious!
Dawkins said above that complexity and design “cries out for an explanation.” But what is there to explain? Even a crude cabin is proof of a creator. What needs explaining is how complexity and design could come about without a creator!
After having said all this, I thought the case was closed. A supernatural, first cause is the only thing that makes any sense when considering the origin of everything. Like the foolish man in Matthew 7:24-27, any worldview that is not founded upon Christ, is built upon sand. It cannot stand up to scrutiny. But rather than try to rebut anything I’d said, this Fakebook poster decided to declare victory and make the following, outrageous claim:
The uncreated first cause proves that a creator is unneeded. Once we have established that existence without creation, an intelligent mind without an intelligent creator and a consciousness without a creator can all exist, what reason is there to conclude that there is only one example of such things?
Unbelievers are in denial about the religious nature of their beliefs about origins. They are trying to posit a creator with similar attributes that we normally associate with God. In other words, they want us to believe there is a supernatural, eternal, uncaused cause for the universe – but it's still not God! It's just something like God. The skeptics are invoking a god-like non-god to explain the same things Christians credit to God.
I've said before that unbelievers in God are believers in poofism. There was nothing then, POOF, there was everything. Time, space, matter, and design just poofed into existence. They're essentially saying the creation created itself. They don't know what caused it to happen but they're sure it wasn't God. //RKBentley scratches his head//
I don't believe in God because it sort of makes sense. I believe in God because that's the only thing that makes sense. Everything we know about the universe confirms over and over there is a supernatural cause behind it. Deep down, skeptics tacitly admit this too. They just stubbornly deny Elohim is the Creator. The god of atheism is a capricious, clumsy, invisible god that is indistinguishable from dumb luck. They seek to rob God of His glory by worshipping the undivine god of evolution. How sad.



